Do They Understand What (Theological) Love Is?

One of the most hotly debated topics in America today is how Christians should deal with homosexuality. For generations, the Church has taken a clear moral stance to the effect that homosexuality is wrong, clearly condemned in Holy Scripture, and that there really was not much more to be said about it. In recent years, the multifaceted homosexual community, GLBT (Gay, Lesbian, Bi-sexual, and Transgendered) as they are known, have continued to press for acceptance of their chosen manners of life as natural, normal, and fully acceptable. The subtext of their clamor is to the effect that their perversions are even praiseworthy, and should be recognized as such. They use catchy little slogans such as, “God does not make any mistakes,” implying that their manner of life is God-given and therefore God sanctioned. There seems to be very little evidence to support the idea that these are mistakes of nature in most cases, but rather they are choices made by people looking for adventure and excitement. These are people who see their bodies as their own to be used for their own purposes, not as gifts from God, their Creator, to be used for His glory.

While there can be no doubt that homosexuality has existed for ages, there can also be no doubt that the rulers and leaders of the nations have recognized that this was an unnatural way of live, contrary to the will of God, and counter productive to their respective nations. For this reason, homosexuality has always been generally suppressed, that is, until recently. Now our leaders have lost their sense of moral direction, and they are willing to listen to, and be persuaded by, any foolish group that makes enough of a clamor. The LGBT group have been fairly effective in marketing their ideas, and we find all manner of civic leaders now speaking out in their favor, people who a generation earlier would not even have considered doing so. A case in point is a prominent member of Congress, well known for his opposition to gay marriage, who has just recently announced his support for gay marriage now that his own son has announced to the world that he, the son, is gay.

Some of these leaders who are coming out in support of the LGBT life style are saying things such as, “We are New Testament Christians; we are not bound by the Old Testament.” In saying this, they think that they escape from passages such as Leviticus 20:13   If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them, and other similar passages. What they are missing completely are these words of Jesus Christ: Matthew 5:17-18   17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.  18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. It is rank foolishness for us today to think that we can call ourselves “New Testament Christians,” and thereby live in total ignorance of the Old Testament. Jesus Himself followed the Mosaic Law, and we are in no way at all above our Master!

But then they argue, Jesus did not condemn anyone, He only preached love. Well that is immediately false on its face. There are many examples of Jesus’ condemnation, but one will suffice: Matthew 23:27   Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness. And yet, unknowingly, they are correct; even here, Jesus is preaching love, Theological Love. At this, you may say, and just what is this Theological Love? For you to love another person, in the theological sense, does not even require that you be acquainted with that person, strange though that may sound. It requires only that you seek and desire what is best for that person, in particular, that which draws that other person closer to God. Now that does not sound at all like the popular conception of love, sometimes described as luuurrvveeee, but this is real LOVE. This is the love that is described in 1 Corinthians 13, that chapter that is so popular for use at weddings, and has nothing at all to do with romantic love!

Now, what does the matter of Theological Love have to do with the LGBT push for social acceptance and acclaim? Just this. Anyone who supports this movement to recognize and approve this lifestyle, thinking that this is an act of love, is in fact committing an act of eternal evil against these confused and sinful people. It is condoning and approving their sin, rather than helping them to move away from it. The so-call “condemnation” by the Church in previous generations has been a call to repentance, a call to turn away from sin and return to righteous living. And so the Church must continue to say to the LBGT people, “No, that life is the road to death, both physical and spiritual death. It does not bring you closer to God. Repent, and come to our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ Who forgives all repentant sinners.”

This is the only way to speak to them in LOVE.

About Father D

I am a priest of the Continuing Anglican Church, the continuation of orthodox Anglicanism into the present 21st century. My theology is definitely that of a Reformed Catholic point of view, neither Roman nor Calvinist.
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8 Responses to Do They Understand What (Theological) Love Is?

  1. David says:

    So I’m assuming that if you believe that Leviticus 20:13 applies to the 21st century, then you believe that the rest applies as well:
    – People who should be banned from ever entering any church: children of unmarried parents (Deuteronomy 23:2); men who have had vasectomies (Deuteronomy 23:1); anyone with a deformity (Leviticus 21:18-21);
    – People who should be killed: unmarried non-virgins (Deuteronomy 22: 20-21); children who curse their parents (Leviticus 20:9); anyone who works on a Sunday (Exodus 35:2);
    – People who are living in sin: men with long hair (l Corinthians 11:14); women who wear mens clothing (Deuteronomy 22:5); anyone with a tattoo (Leviticus 19:28); anyone who consults a medium or reads a horoscope (Leviticus 19:3); anyone who eats pork (Deuteronomy 14:8);
    – Things Christians shouldn’t do: pray in public (Matthew 6:5-7); oppose evil (Matthew 5:39; plan ahead or make provisions for the future (Matthew 6:25-34); take a dispute before a non-Christian judge (1 Corinthians 6:1);
    – If you need some extra money, sell your daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:7-11);
    – A woman who is raped must marry her attacker and can’t ever divorce him (Deuteronomy 22:28-29);
    – Soldiers should rape/marry women from the countries they conquer (Deuteronomy 21:10-14);
    – Thieves should cut their own hands off (Mark 9:43).

  2. Father D says:

    Well, David, you are very quick to make assumptions about me, based on very little evidence, but I’m not surprised. You give away your position very quickly.

    You seem to have scoured the OT for things that, to your mind, would be ridiculous if applied today. It is too bad that you have not put an equal amount of effort into reading, and fully understanding the NT. If you did, you might discover that in the NT, certain OT laws are in fact set aside, particularly specifically the dietary law. The NT also sets a different tone as to how we should deal with other people, what punishments should be meted out for particular infractions of the law.

    Would you care to spell out just how these assumptions you have made about me relate to what I have said in this post? I think that might be very interesting if you are able to do so. I’ll wait for you.

    • David says:

      Why would you assume that I’m making any assumptions? The passages I referenced come from your holy book. Any assumptions I might be making are based solely on what you posted on my blog the other day. If it would be absurd to apply many of the OT prohibitions, why cherry pick the ban on homosexuality? And both the OT and NT laws apply only to Jews and Christians. They’re irrelevant for those of us who are not.

      • Father D says:

        David, the nature of your response is typical for those who have chosen to openly defy the Word of God. I cannot say I am surprise, only disappointed.

        You clearly did not learn about Christianity as you claim to have learned as a child. If you had, you would be able to simply apply reason to see where you are going wrong.

        I will hope that you come to your senses before it is too late for you. God allows us only a certain period on this earth before we are swept away. Where will you be carried to when that time comes?

      • David says:

        And there it is: I’m in the wrong because I don’t believe the same way as you do, which somehow gives you the right and permission to berate and belittle me. On the contrary, I did learn about Christianity as a child. I even studied theology as a young adult, and the only reason that I am where I am today is because I don’t think like a slave, a mindset that the Christian religion extols, promotes and reveres.

        Your empty threats of divine judgment do nothing but further convince me that your position is as vacuous as the evidence for the “science” behind your opposition to my full equality as a fellow human being. I certainly hope that you come to *your* senses soon and realize the incalculable harm you have done to innocent creatures who are supposedly made in the image of your God.

  3. David says:

    In the meantime, please explain to me how I’ve misinterpreted the Bible passages quoted above which were taken from your own holy book (and as good of an English translation as one can expect of the Bible), and why it’s acceptable for you to pick and choose which verses you choose to follow and which ones you expect the rest of us to live by.

    For extra credit, you might also explain to me why your holy book is the One True Word of God when other religions are as equally convinced that they have the One True Word of their God(s).

    • Father D says:

      David, you said “… behind your opposition to my full equality as a fellow human being.”

      Here you are completely mistaken. In no way whatsoever do I oppose you full equality as a fellow human being. There are many who are on their way to hell, and it is my duty as a Christian priest to warn them, all of them, including you. I have now given you that warning, and tell you that you are completely free to go your own way, in defiance of the Word of God. Please, however, keep your errors to yourself and do not try to spread them to others.

      I can live with your perversions; they have only a minor effect on me personally. It is your soul that has been my concern here, nothing else. You are only a small part of the general perversion of society; let is stay that way. I will continue to worship my God and my Saviour, Jesus Christ the righteous, and you are free to worship your genitals. This is all a part of the free will, given to us by God.

      • David says:

        Perversions? Warnings? Oh, honestly. Who exactly do you think you are? Your ancient holy book has absolutely no authority outside of the walls of your church. Those who choose to shackle their lives to its outdated and barbaric commands are free to do so, but those of us who value life and humanity have moved on. Here I would add that not all Christians think like you. I know many who believe that the Bible was written by men who got a lot of things wrong, and that their God isn’t the judgmental and hateful being that you and others worship.

        As an atheist, I don’t believe in any supernatural beings or in anything that can’t be proven with evidence, but don’t begrudge anyone for finding purpose and meaning in their beliefs. If your belief makes you a kinder, more compassionate person, go for it. But I won’t hesitate to speak up and criticize when people decide to use their beliefs as a mask for the intolerance and hatred that drives their desire to oppress and abuse other human beings.

        My sexuality, and my desire to pursue my sexual and romantic feelings for other men in the same way that heterosexuals do every way, harms no one, including myself, as long as I do so in a way that respects and protects myself and others. But seeing as no reputable scientific study has shown that there is anything inherently harmful about the homosexual orientation, your demands that I turn from my deviant ways are even more baseless and laughable.

        I will continue to speak up, loudly, about how wrong you and other Christians like you are about freedom and human rights, in the hopes that other young people realize that there is another way to live that isn’t riddled with misery and self-hate.

        However, I think our “perversions” have quite a powerful effect on you – otherwise, you wouldn’t be crusading against us so virulently. I could be wrong, but I suspect that you resent us for living the life you desperately wish you could be living. Sour grapes, as they say.

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